Today's news article!!!

[JDee]

[Maudy]

Oh come on, Jac - we do have a test. The fact that it measures completely usless b12 floating around in the blood stream doing diddly, is irrelevant. You know most of us on here aren't even b12 deficient...

Maybe we should get a PAS chant going:

"We aren't sick
It's all in our mind"

"We are just emotional
...and I've got a blue behind"

[JDee]

[kimks mom]

It is just a pile of rubbish but I suppose there will be many people who will throw out their supplements based on a study that is very seriously flawed. Anyone can do a study provided you have someone to publish it. That doesn't mean that it has to make sense.

~Pat

[anotherwithpa]

I've not read the article and will expect to be told not to give my opinion, but I strongly believe you should only take what is needed and never take artificial stuff if not needed. Less is allways more . My opinion.

[JDee]

[Galixie]

They were yapping about that study on the news this week. From what I recall, the study involved women between the ages 55 and 69 and the findings were that 40% of the women who did take supplements died during the study and 38% of women who didn't take supplements died during the study. That is a two percentage point difference (less really because I'm rounding to what I remember). With all of the other qualifiers of how the study was performed and that it was, with the exception of folic acid, only vitamins that are known to become toxic in large doses (iron, b6, etc) that were identified as the culprits. I think it's safe to say that about 39% percent of women in that age bracket typically die regardless of what vitamins they may or may not be taking.

Summed up that way, it sort of sounds like it was a collossal waste of time doesn't it?

[kimks mom]

I wonder if any money from the large pharma companies found its way to any of the author's of the study. There was talk as well about the study here and Vit. E was implicated. I think most people know that caution has to be used with Vit. E. I also think the outcome results from participants blindly taking what they were told to take. I don't take anything unless I have looked it up and even 20 years ago there were enough books around that discussed drugs and vitamin side effects. I still have a large hard-cover book, actually, there are two laying around here somewhere that has a listing of A to Z of drugs and vitamins with a description of side effects.

~Pat

[JDee]

[JDee]

The article above will be a phone-in on the Wrightstuff on Channel 5 after 10.20 this morning. Anyone want to discuss b12 deficiency as a potential cause?

Jac

[JDee]

Here's today's offering.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16581674

Jac

[JDee]

[JDee]

Measure blood pressure in BOTH arms not just one - new advice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17442996

Jac

[JDee]

Good luck.

Jac

[JDee]

Today's article advises about a trial for treating pregnant women with Metformin, to try to reduce the numbers of overweight babies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... child.html

I wonder if any counter measures re possible b12 deficiency will be taken!!!!

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Jac